Here is a new video that I have just made for You Tube. Can you be made to behave against your will? Find out by taking part in The Thought Experiment…
Did it work for you?
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Here is a new video that I have just made for You Tube. Can you be made to behave against your will? Find out by taking part in The Thought Experiment…
Did it work for you?
April 27, 2010 at 5:41 am |
It actually got my fingers to less than a half inch apart. It was difficult to prevent them from closing in, but possible to prevent them from closing in completely. Very neat trick.
April 27, 2010 at 5:42 am |
Ums, that’s not a thought experiment as much as it’s a hypnosis test of suggestibility. A classic one is to clasp your hands together and imagine them glued, holding them tightly until the glue “sets” then try to pull them apart.
Sadly, I was thinking about that as your video played and was unable to accomplish any self-hypnosis at the same time, my fingers stayed where they were.
However I remembered two things I need to take care of!
April 27, 2010 at 5:43 am |
It didn’t work when I watched the video but did after. I think during the video I was determined to prove you wrong, but afterwards I wanted to see why the effect happened. I’m guessing the ligaments in my fingers are not very flexible and it’s natural for my fingers to move.
April 27, 2010 at 5:44 am |
My fingers actually starting moving together before you tied the invisible thread around them. This leads me to two conclusions. 1) you do have the power to control my fingers. 2) I can see into the future.
Very good trick though. I’ll be trying this out on my friends soon
April 27, 2010 at 5:52 am |
There was definitely some part of me that wanted my fingers to come together, held strong though! My willpower defeats YouTube again!
..now of to go watch some lol-cat vids.
April 27, 2010 at 6:04 am |
No but there was definitely something tingling
April 27, 2010 at 6:05 am
That’s awesome by the way
April 27, 2010 at 10:38 am
same here, weird tingling effect. my left index finger is still tingling…
April 27, 2010 at 6:07 am |
No movement, no desire to move?
April 27, 2010 at 6:13 am |
My fingers seemed to naturally drift together – holding them apart required a small amount of effort, imagination or no – but I never had any trouble pulling them apart when I wanted to. I’m not sure what others might have felt pulling them in though, so I can’t say if this relaxation is just it, but I suspect it isn’t.
April 27, 2010 at 6:15 am |
Hold your fingers parallel to each other and think about something else. They will come close together. Because they aren’t parallel when they’re relaxed. It takes effort to keep them parallel.
April 27, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Yeah, I don’t think the string stuff has anything to do with it. If your hands are clasped like that there is considerable leverage working to bring your fingers together automatically. You have to work to keep them apart. And people are notoriously bad at holding parts of their body still. That’s why you can’t effectively measure something by holding one hand at each end of it and then moving your hands “together” to some reference object. So yeah, mine ended up a bit closer together, but I don’t think the specifics of the video had anything to do with it.
April 27, 2010 at 4:13 pm
The real mind trick would be to show that it works the other way as well, getting people to move their fingers further apart rather than towards the more relaxed position.
April 27, 2010 at 6:31 am |
It worked for me. I was determined to keep them apart, but they went to about 1/2″ apart,
April 27, 2010 at 6:44 am |
Yes my fingers moved together
April 27, 2010 at 6:46 am |
Not so interesting. We use to do it day in and day out in our childhood and now I have a practice to keep the figures apart, come what may.
April 27, 2010 at 6:46 am |
Nope, nothing. I kept waiting for the experiment to begin and then it was over. Perhaps my having been a symphony musician has something to do with it? I’m used to keeping my hands to a task while watching someone else’s hands for instruction.
April 27, 2010 at 6:48 am |
No, nothing happened.
April 27, 2010 at 6:53 am |
No effect here, sorry.
April 27, 2010 at 6:54 am |
Hum… that’s a good trick but not a “thought experiment” at all !
It’s merely a mechanical feature of our hands > try to hold the same hand-position WITHOUT THE VIDEO RUNNING and you’ll see your fingers will slowly move towards each other all the same. That’s only because our index’ sinews are pulled back by the other fingers being closed.
April 27, 2010 at 9:37 am
I agree with you, but the interesting bit is the ease with which one can be fooled into thinking that it is the imaginary thread that is doing the work. Oh how we have to fight the natural instinct that correlation = causality!
April 27, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Agreed completely, that is exactly the point I was going to make. I watched the video and found myself struggling to keep my fingers an inch apart, then thought: what about if there was no video. Sure enough, clasping my hands together and holding the fingers apart in general takes the same level of effort.
April 27, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Yes.
April 27, 2010 at 7:05 am |
No – I waited but absolutely nothing happened.
April 27, 2010 at 7:05 am |
Nope, didn’t have any effect on my fingers at all. Not sure if it matters, but I do a lot of fine motor skill work with my fingers. I’m a hummingbird bander and need to have a lot of control over my fingers when I’m making the tiny bands, placing a band on the birds’ tiny legs and also completing all the measuring tasks required while holding the bird in hand.
April 27, 2010 at 9:02 am
do you really band hummingbirds? I know of banding to track migration patterns and I’ve been working on doing a bird count now that my urban wildlife habitat has become well established as a feeding stop and nesting location…..humming birds are so very beautiful! Like natures living jewels….so very lucky!
April 27, 2010 at 7:51 am |
Nada, nothing, not a sausage. My fingers stayed where I pointed them.
April 27, 2010 at 7:53 am |
Huh. I was trying not to think too much about the video and keep my fingers steady, but I looked down and they were almost touching.
April 27, 2010 at 7:59 am |
Nope. My fingers don’t seem to be influenced by imaginary threads.
April 27, 2010 at 8:01 am |
Good one!
This is nice suggestibility test. One thing that made it difficult was that you started by saying that you’ll try to ifluence our behaviour. This made most of us (incl. me) opposing it and not letting it happen.
Better way would be to call it test to test our ability to concentrate and after it’s done to reveal that it was influence in fact. That would increase score of people that cpomply to your suggestion to 80% and more.
But still – nice suggestibility test.
April 27, 2010 at 8:33 am |
As was said earlier in the comments, it requires effort to keep the fingers parallel in that position. Associating your string-pulling gesture with the actual resistance in the fingers would be an easy thing for many people, I’m sure. I caught on to what you were doing, but it still seems like it would be a good trick under more unassuming circumstances. Maybe I’ll try it on one of my friends after he’s had a couple of drinks.
April 27, 2010 at 8:54 am |
Nothing happened.
April 27, 2010 at 8:56 am |
I was listening to the instructions waiting for it to start when I realized it was over but when I looked at my fingers were touching….I can feel the tips of my fingers I have lost a large amount of my fine motor skills but I did replay and this time paid attention and was able to keep my fingers apart.
April 27, 2010 at 9:14 am
oh why oh why can’t we have a way to edit our posts????
Should have read “I can NOT feel the tips …..”
April 27, 2010 at 8:56 am |
I tried it without the video afterwards and keeping my mind on something else. After a few seconds the fingers touched. Explanation: Holding your fingers like that is an effort of will, ´cause the fingers don´t relax at all, and when you are distracted, they will close the gap.
The illusion is that you think Richard is bending your mind, but he isn´t. You are bending because of the distraction. There is no spoon
April 27, 2010 at 9:09 am |
Nothing at all. Tried a few times. Still nothing.
April 27, 2010 at 9:15 am |
I’m afraid it didn’t work on me, and I wasn’t even focusing on trying to keep them apart.
April 27, 2010 at 9:27 am |
Yes they moved together, but I think mainly because my fingers really didn’t like being an inch apart. They hurt afterwards!
April 27, 2010 at 9:28 am |
I think the interesting result here is that people interpret the effect based on what they assume will be going on. Clasping your hands together make holding your fingers out in that manner very unnatural – thus eventually your fingers will naturally move back together, especially if your attention is mildly diverted. Given the tone of the video and the manner of its setup and staging, people are quick to assume this is a result of suggestibility or hypnosis.
An application of a little science to pick apart the elements, as Fran6co did above, reveals what aspects are actually causing the effect, and what is window dressing.
The simplest answer is almost always the right one (and sadly usually the most dull!)
April 27, 2010 at 10:08 am |
Yes, they moved closer. Just like they would have if no suggestion was made.
April 27, 2010 at 10:33 am |
Nope. I just held my fingers about an inch apart. I didn’t even feel like I was “resisting” although I was focused on the task.
April 27, 2010 at 10:37 am |
Anyone over across the pond thinking about having scrambled eggs today? Watching the news over here…..what’s up over your way?
April 27, 2010 at 11:05 am
Goodness members of Parliament throwing eggs and smacking each other around and even hair pulling? Richard you naughty boy what have you done to them….lol…..
April 27, 2010 at 11:56 am
OH NNNEEEVVER mind….face in hands shaking head…..correction from news report….Ukraine Parliament……dumb….dumb….somedays they shouldn’t let me go on-line….take lap top away until I can use it safely……I’m crawling under my bed and stay there….I think there might be some leftover chocolate chip cookies still there…….
April 27, 2010 at 11:57 am
yep their still there…..anyone got milk?
April 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
lolz!
April 28, 2010 at 12:26 pm
lilmissjk…..I heard that lolz……. giggle …..cookies were a little dry without the milk……OK dusty too… but they were broken and that lets the calories leak out and anything eaten under the bed don’t count anyway…….lol……
April 27, 2010 at 10:40 am |
Worked for me
April 27, 2010 at 10:54 am |
No effect here
April 27, 2010 at 11:14 am |
I “felt” the pull, but resisted it successfully.
April 27, 2010 at 12:02 pm |
My fingers did move, though I think it was more a function of flexibility than anything. Anytime I try to hold them an inch apart they want to drift back in. I could see this as a very convincing trick though
April 27, 2010 at 12:09 pm |
Well, I was able to hold my fingers apart, but this is not a mind trick.
The relaxed position for the fingers is together, so that it takes exertion to hold them apart. If we took this to another extreme, and placed the body in a more severe stress position, for example standing on the balls of your feet with the knees bent, I am sure that a little chatting for distraction would not be considered as the cause of the eventual muscle fatigue.
April 27, 2010 at 12:22 pm |
Nothing. Maybe because I haven’t had my morning coffee yet but I was concentrating on keeping the fingers parallel and, well, nothing, I just held them parallel for the full length of the video.
April 27, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
No movement here. Sorry.
April 27, 2010 at 1:04 pm |
Nothing happened. It occured to me that I wasn’t trying very hard to visualize the “string,” and if I were trying harder then it might have had more of an effect. However, if I had been expending that much effort to visualize the effect, I’m not sure I could have called it “against my will.”
April 27, 2010 at 1:17 pm |
My fingers did not pull together.
April 27, 2010 at 1:19 pm |
My fingers began moving together before the “string” was put around them
April 27, 2010 at 1:19 pm |
I don’t get it. Is there some kind of hidden joke that I’m missing? Of course it doesn’t work, why would it?
April 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm |
Didn’t work for me.
April 27, 2010 at 1:33 pm |
Moving fingers to an inch apart puts a bit of tension vs natural state. So natural state without a video would be to move to close. Were doing it anyway regardless of thread and could easiliy just keep apart.
April 27, 2010 at 2:09 pm |
Nope, my fingers stayed the same. You should add a surprise ending though with everyone concentrating a guillotine or something would have been a fun ending….
April 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm |
My fingers drifted toward each other due to what I’m assuming is muscle fatigue long before you did the thread thing.
April 27, 2010 at 3:18 pm |
Nothing
April 27, 2010 at 4:45 pm |
I thought we were “SUPPOSED” to put our fingers together when you said you were going to put them together. Then i did it again and nothing happened. My fingers were the same, im not sure if it had anything to do with the way i did it again…..
April 27, 2010 at 5:50 pm |
Mine were not affected. Clearly, I have no thought.
April 27, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
Like others, I found that my fingers naturally wanted to come together anyway, without really *feeling* like they were coming together. Curiously, though, I got more of a closing effect when I was watching the video instead of watching my fingers. If I paid attention to my fingers, it was easier to keep them apart.
April 27, 2010 at 6:27 pm |
Didn’t work on me. My fingers are stronger than bears.
April 28, 2010 at 5:41 am
hey screammy you got video of that to prove your fingers are stronger than bears? …..hehe…..I wanna see….
April 28, 2010 at 7:07 am
I haven’t been to the zoo yet, maybe in a few weeks though.
April 28, 2010 at 12:32 pm
well just don’t hurt the bears….like if some of your fingers get stuck between it’s teeth and remove sharp objects so when they fall down and roll around laughing at you they don’t get hurt…….hehe…make sure your camera is on auto focus….don’t think you will have time to worry with it……
April 27, 2010 at 7:05 pm |
Nope, nada.
April 27, 2010 at 8:09 pm |
I stared at my fingers instead of the video. I managed to keep them apart.
April 27, 2010 at 8:37 pm |
My fingers drifted closer together but I feel it has less to do with the suggestion and more to do with the fact that holding them apart takes effort and without that effort they would naturally drift together anyway.
April 27, 2010 at 8:44 pm |
Wow! My fingers went together and I couldnt stop it.
April 27, 2010 at 8:45 pm |
Didn’t work for me
April 27, 2010 at 9:06 pm |
As others have said, they moved together but probably because the natural relaxed state for them in that initial posture is closer together.
April 27, 2010 at 9:20 pm |
No, it didn’t work for me.
April 27, 2010 at 9:44 pm |
Nope.
April 27, 2010 at 10:06 pm |
I like the one where you hold your arms out, imagine one has a balloon tied to it, and one is holding a bucket. That way, nobody can say “Oh well your arms just get tired or your fingers naturally want to close blah blah blah”
April 27, 2010 at 10:07 pm |
It’s easier if you close your eyes
April 27, 2010 at 10:56 pm |
Right, nothing happened on the first try, then tried it again to make sure and nothing happened at all. Then, I tried it eyes closed since someone mentioned it might work (and I study psychology, I wan’t to know if I’m suggestible =P). When I opened my eyes, my fingers were actually closer to each other! About half an inch apart. One last try with eyes closed, maybe a bit more conscious about the effect this time, nothing happened.
My guess that on the third try I was most relaxed and since the first two tries didn’t result to any changes, I didn’t try to keep my fingers at a fixed distance from each other. Fourth time I didn’t have to struggle to keep them apart but did try not to bring them together.
April 28, 2010 at 12:09 am |
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April 28, 2010 at 1:29 am |
Yes… close your eyes =)
April 28, 2010 at 6:11 am |
Nope nothing, no effect. However I think the experiment might have had more of an impact If I did not know what the anticipated outcome was supposed to be.
If you said to hold my fingers apart one inch and then imagine if I wrap a string around your fingers etc without telling me the idea was to hold my fingers apart I would likely have been much more influenced by your suggestion of tying them together.
April 28, 2010 at 10:27 am |
Didn’t work for me, I obviously have a WILL OF STEEL
Cant help being a little disappointed…!
April 28, 2010 at 10:38 am |
It moved, it felt as though I was not in control of my fingers. I felt the thread.
Aslo… A spoon bent in my drawer!
April 28, 2010 at 12:41 pm |
I didn’t even fold my hands. Why should I follow orders from some guy in a video?
April 28, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Following the same logic, why would you even watch a video just because some guy asks you to?
“Find out by taking part in The Thought Experiment…”.
You choose to either take part or not. No point in looking into the research interest, watching the video, and then pretending to be a rebel.
March 17, 2011 at 3:07 pm
This is a test of how suggestible you are, and a test of how much you want to be told that you’re not suggestible. I didn’t fold my hands either, because I thought it would be as simple as that. “How suggestible are you? I’d like you to interlock your fingers. Done that? Well then you’re very suggestible.”
I don’t need some test to tell me I’m not suggestible. Suggestible (just one more there for luck).
April 28, 2010 at 2:10 pm |
My fingers moved together even though I tried to focus on keeping them apart, but I am a bit tired today. I like what Superhans said above, what a rebel! Was an interesting experiment. Cheers
April 28, 2010 at 6:43 pm |
My fingers moved together until there was about 1cm between them, but there is a rational explanation. The muscles in my hands naturally wanted to push my fingers together when they relaxed. When I was distracted by watching the video, my fingers naturally edged closer together.
April 28, 2010 at 8:00 pm |
Nothing here. but I think thats because I’m in Scotland. Further north and all that you know…
April 29, 2010 at 6:35 am
Yes, it’s the coriolis effect wearing off as you north.
April 29, 2010 at 12:52 pm |
Nope, fingers stayed put but I suspect if it had taken longer my hands would have relaxed and my fingers come together.
April 30, 2010 at 3:24 am |
It didn’t work, but I have been successfully hypnotized in the past. Apparently this just wasn’t one of those times. There was no effect at all.
April 30, 2010 at 7:57 am |
It’s amazing, they moved towards each other ! I didn’t notice until I felt them touch. It was quite natural, like some imaginary string was gently pushing them.
April 30, 2010 at 9:36 pm |
My fingers moved all the way together until they were touching! So weird!
May 2, 2010 at 1:40 pm |
nope, it didnt work
May 2, 2010 at 3:52 pm |
No effect whatsoever. Fingers didn’t move.
May 3, 2010 at 3:47 pm |
didn’t work…
silly.
May 4, 2010 at 2:51 am |
practically touching
May 5, 2010 at 1:16 pm |
Nice suggestibility test! I do this sometimes before showing hypnosis experiment. I think it would be more effective if you have added even a suggestion on two magnet that push together the fingers helping the strip and if you have asked the people to concentrate on your video, on the space between the fingers o somewhere else.
Nice blog by the way. I’m a new acquirent of Quirkology, hopefully I’ll receive it soon
May 6, 2010 at 3:38 am |
Nothing. I ran it twice, no movement, no urge to move.
May 25, 2010 at 8:43 am |
Not the first time. But I did it again tightening the grip on my hand and my fingers naturally wanted to come together.
September 30, 2010 at 10:44 am |
I think it’s because of muscle relaxation.
March 17, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
I must not be very suggestible, when he said “interlock your fingers” I didn’t.
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