On Friday I set this puzzle….

What is the connection between these times:

9:57

8:23

1:32

11:25

9:13

2:48

If you have not tried to solve it, have a go now.  For everyone else the answer is after the break.

Each time starts and ends with the same letter:

Nine fifty seveN

Eight twenty threE

and so on.  Did you solve it? Any other answers?

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2. Anders says:

utterly stupid, the worst ever

1. GW says:

I agree, someone suggested in the comments that none of them contained a 6 or 0. It’s fair to say that would also be a solution given the answer’s logic.

2. Eddie says:

I agree. Absolutely awful.

3. Anders says:

not containing a 6 or 0 would be an equally valid answer, but my personal favourite is the one that said the times the 3pm train actually arrived

4. Smylers says:

Not containing a 6 is part of the answer: because no numbers end in “s” or begin with “x” (and because there can’t be a 6 in the ‘tens of minutes’ position), it’s necessary that none of the times contain a 6. So spotting this is a clue.

Similarly for not containing a 0 (though there could be one in the middle position).

5. Anonalomalom says:

Sounds like some sour grapes here. “Didn’t get the answer” = “awful question”

6. Anders says:

Anonalomalom, if that is what you prefer to believe, I can’t stop you. But I did actually “solve it” albeit with some help from the hints in the comments, I still think it sucks golfballs through a hose

7. edwardv says:

I suggested 6 and 0 not being in any of them. It’s not quite equivalent to the given answer since 0 could appear at the end in the time 9:10 (“nine ten”) as well as in the middle before or after the colon.

8. Someone has a case of sour grapes? (see that?- started and ended with “s”)

9. It’s because couldn’t get it that I think it is an absolutely awful puzzle. Get it?

3. -M- says:

Yes, found it after googling for a hint and a reading hint in the comments.

These puzzles are harder when English is not your native language.

1. edwardv says:

I suggested 6 and 0 not being in any of them. It’s not quite equivalent to the given answer since 0 could appear at the end in the time 9:10 (“nine ten”) as well as in the middle before or after the colon.

2. edwardv says:

4. Pete says:

Is that it?! Rubbish answer, glad I didn’t use up too much time trying to work it out.

5. Mathew says:

You know what the real connection is between those times? The colon. It connects the hours with the minutes.

1. Julia says:

6. Duncan says:

I drew the times on clockfaces, then as on a digital clock. My next attempt was going to be writing them out as words which might have helped. Anyway, it’s a rubbish answer so I’m glad I didn’t bother!

1. Anonymous says:

You did bother

2. He didn’t bother writing them out as words, which is what he said he was glad he didn’t bother with.

7. Mathew says:

Oh, I also calculated the general formula for the angles between the hour and minute hands: For a given time of format h:m, it is the minimum of x° or (360 – x)°, for x = |60h – 11m|/2. If we include seconds in the format h:m:s, this becomes x = |60²h – 660m – 11s|/120.

8. I don’t think this was the worst ever! The whole point of these puzzles is to make us think laterally – not to go for the obvious. I got nowhere near to solving this one!

9. Anonymous says:

Get a life boys! This is supposed to be for fun – not a test for nuclear scientists!

1. Anonymous says:

Hear hear

10. Ronald says:

For me, this passes the “am I sure that my answer is right once I’ve spotted it” test. But it’s not the most elegant puzzle, in that, with the exception of 9:13, the penultimate digit in each time is entirely arbitrary. In most good puzzles, all the information is relevant.

I thought it was a good puzzle.
I was not able to solve it – but I did guess that there was some misdirection and that calling them “times” was irrelevant.
The fact that I went through a lot of the routines that other people did – angles etc – does not mean I wasted my time. My brain got a workout, albeit I did not get the right answer.

1. Mathew says:

Completely agree on the last bit. As to whether it was a good puzzle? Let’s just say Job 17:10.

2. Now that is a very good point. After all, we do these things to keep our brains sharp, correct? I like your attitude! 🙂

12. Lazy T says:

noon

1. Big Jobby says:

Job 17:10:-
“But come on, all of you, try again! I will not find a wise man among you.”
(Sometimes also known as Job Ten past five)

13. Roland says:

Three to Ten, doesn’t end with the same letter as it ends?
Twelve to Three, and so forth. I guess the answer doesn’t hold? 😉

1. The Moron says:

Nor does Twenty five past eleveN or Three minutes to teN.
Are you sure you have a workable answer Richard?

14. JeffJo says:

In “The Hobbit,” Bilbo won the riddle game with Gollum, after putting his hand in his pocket and finding what he had absent-mindedly placed there, by asking to himself “What have I got in my pocket?” While there was an answer, and only one, everybody agrees it wasn’t really a riddle. And while there are no hard and fast and rules that make a good one, there are guidelines that should be met.

This isn’t a good puzzle because (1) although all six answers given do fit the stated pattern, there are so many others that fit it as well that the six can hardly be considered a representative sample, and (2) there are other equally arbitrary patterns that fit the six as well.

15. Calgacus says:

Unusually, I didn’t manage to solve this one. Isn’t that the definition of a good puzzle?

1. Anders says:

No it isn’t, if that were the case I could ask you “x to y is like a sandwich to…?” and it would be brilliant, no?

Much like a detective mystery where the murderer is introduced two pages from the end, not giving any clues to the reader, it’s not a good mystery unless there is some sense in the riddle

2. Calgacus says:

In fairness, there are probably several things that, together, contribute to a good puzzle. Being difficult to solve is one of them. If a puzzle is easy to solve, its not much of a puzzle is it?

3. Calgacus says:

4. @ Anders

Wow! Someone really has a bad case of sour grapes, you didn’t solve it, let it go, you’re not always as smart as you think you are, that’s what makes some of them puzzling

16. SimonP says:

The list of times isn’t inclusive. Surely to be a ‘decent’ puzzle all palindromic times should be listed, and in a reasonable order. E.g. alphabitcally. So the list of times should start with 8:01, 8:11, 8:21, 8:31… and continue on to the 11’s and 9’s and 1s.

17. Dharmaruci says:

this weeks puzzle is very bad very cheesy. not good one, mr wiseman.

is almost as good as this one: what is next number (it is not 12):

2, 4, 6, 8, 10, ??

The ans is below
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ans is 37.

Why?
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is my lottery numbers.

The end
(M Night Shamalangham)

18. Anonymous says:

What a bunch of babies. Just because you didn’t nano second figure it out, you “waa waa, what a stupid puzzle”
LOL.

19. D says:

The real answer is that all these times are in the morning (ante meridiem).

20. Mervulon says:

Didn’t get it, but more importantly, don’t really care. It’s free, and I’m free play along, or not.

21. Jack says:

As a dearranged Truculent Technologist, I demand sumptuous toast .

22. Jack says:

As a dearanged Truculent Technologist, I demand sumptuous toast .

23. Jack says:

As a deranged Truculent Technologist, I demand sumptuous toast .

24. Well….I’m not very impressed. Gotta agree that it was not a very engaging puzzle. When I couldn’t get it, I browsed the comments, found one that hinted at this, but thought surely that couldn’t be right. I’m disappointed that it is.

25. Henry says:

I felt certain that all six represented times of the day when Richard had despaired of the trap he set for himself by promising a puzzle every Friday, but then running out of new and interesting material. It’s been a good run, Richard, but it may be time to move on to the Friday Bar Bet.

26. Percival Dunwoody says:

The problem with this puzzle is that it is horribly inelegant–these are presented as “times” and the question is “what’s the connection” which leads one to the expectation that there is some connection based on their being times. Instead, the answer is just some random fact about the words they represent. “They all contain the letter E when written out” strikes me as just as valid an answer (as does “none contain a 6” and probably an infinite number of other details). A puzzle that picks one detail and says *that’s* the solution is a bad puzzle.

27. In the Absedonian Language they all rhyme.

I didn’t see either the “E” or the “N” on the clock that I was using to meet the terms of the question. (What is the connection between these “times:” three til ten, 8.3833.., etc.)

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